Pastor D. Mohan has won and the Assemblies of God lost

14 Sep

Letter from a Nobody to the AGI Leaders

Dear Leaders of the AGI,

Greetings !

Though I am a nobody in the AGI , there can be thousands of nobodies like me who share the same concern as I have about the sudden twist in the AGI administrational set up from 22nd and 23rd August 2012.

The voice that echoed in the AGI Conference of 22nd and 23rd August is that the Holy Spirit told you leaders that the system prevalent , especially about the election of officers was wrong and the new system you and your prophets advocated is right in the sight of God . This raises some very serious questions. According to your own argument, you became leaders through that faulty system that God does not approve of and you were anxious to change. When you knew that it is not a system approved by God, why didn’t you resign as you are illegitimate leaders elected by a system which God is not pleased with . On the contrary , you wholeheartedly accepted it and all these years none of you expressed any regret of being a leader through such a system nor did you apologize to the AG community in general for being illegitimate leaders in the sight of the Holy Spirit. Does it not mean that in the heart of heart what you mean is as long as you are elected and you can be in the position, it does not mean anything whatever system elected you. Your problem seems to be that,that system can vote you out also and that someone whom you don’t like can also be elected in to that position. In short, if the system can change you, then that system should be changed. The whole drama of 22nd and 23rd August through your emotional manipulations,fake spiritual exercises by  your well trained prophets were nothing but manipulations to hide your hidden motives.  In fact you were deceiving the innocent members of the Conference who trusted you without realising what was happening.

It is a shame that most of the General Superintendents and District Superintends also kept quiet while the AG is being destroyed by the vested interest of a few who also wanted to remain in their chairs for longer periods like 6 or 4 years without having to face the challenge of being thrown out for their misdeeds. . When I see your six year term I am reminded of Joseph Stalin about whom it is said that a few years before he dropped down dead by a stroke, he ordered the Scientists and Doctors to research and find our treatment and medicine that he may live longer if not for ever.

At least in my understanding you are obsessed of power. Power has addiction. You cannot live without it now and also that you don’t want to share it with anyone else who is not in your immediate circle. Hope you have heard of what Lord Acton said “Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”  It is very difficult for you to give up power now and you are terribly afraid of a free and open election. It appears the very purpose of this out of turn Conference is because of your fear to face a free election. All the spiritual looking drama enacted during the conference through your emotional scenes, supra-spiritual exercises were nothing but cheap manoeuvring for achieving this dictatorial powers for you. The innocent people were deceived by the spiritual drama and crocodile tears of leaders. Most of them who fell before the drama are now understanding their being so simple in that hour. Some of you pretended to be super spiritual has the rare distinction of toppling other leaders from the very beginning of your carrier but now claim that the leopard has changed its spots and many simpletons believed it !

Your addiction to power and position is not going to decrease it is only going to increase. Others fasting and prayers will not help you. I would suggest a six years de-addiction programme for you to save yourself and the AGI.Yes! you need serious de-addiction treatment . If not what you are going to do will be, you will not be satisfied with 6 year term, you will go for 8 and then 12 and then Life time and then to pass it on, on a hereditary basis

We who are born and brought up in the AG and tried to serve God through the AG without any desire of climbing in the ladder of leadership consider this Conference as a tragedy. While some of you started good but taste of power drew you to addiction, some of you it seems, chose AG just for your own position. Both the group now feel that the General body is their enemy as you can be voted out and that’s why the power of the General body is taken away.

As you very well know, you have used all sorts of cunningness to achieve your goals. More than 80% of the voters do not understand English. You have money for everything including to call for an out of turn conference (if it is in Chennai)   but you did not care to translate and make the draft constitution available in the languages of more than 80% of the voters who do not know English. To them all that was available about this new constitution was the speeches of your well trained prophets for it, the super spiritual looking gestures including the crocodile tears and your cunning presentation of those who tried to save the AG from the claws of emerging dictators as rebels and unspiritual.

Further I would like to let you know that you stand exposed as inefficient as far as the general administration of the AGI is concerned. There are many properties of the AG, may be several hundreds of thousands of rupees worth, now most of them are becoming private properties of those individuals because of the negligence of leadership. It appears that you consider that your work is only to rule over the meek, simple and unquestioning pastors of the AGI and nothing to do with the properties belonging to the AGI. You have chosen to look the other way when it is being encroached. May be because

1) You think it is unspiritual

2) It requires hard work

3) It may hurt even some of the AG leaders

4) It may affect your election prospect

5) May be you think that it is bought by easy money from abroad

6) You don’t have a clue as to what to be done

7) You don’t have time after focusing on the works that will secure your election prospects. I understand that you have enough time for marriages and funerals (if you are the main attraction there).

We, though nobodies of the AG feel that a tragedy has happened as someone after attending the conference said “Pastor D. Mohan has won and the Assemblies of God lost.”

I believe that God has his own ways of saving the Assemblies of God from the claws of these emerging dictators. Let’s wait and see what He does.

Ezekiel Joshua

For Malayalam: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/27540359/AGI%20News/AGI%20News%20Malayalam.pdf

For Tamil: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/27540359/AGI%20News/AGI%20News%20Tamil.pdf

Letter from Rev. Wilson William – Kovaipudur to Pastor D. Mohan: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/27540359/AGI%20News/Rev.Mohan%20Letter.pdf

Letter from Rev. Wilson William – Kovaipudur to Rev. Abraham Thomas- Supt of T.N: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/27540359/AGI%20News/Letter%20To%20Supt%20of%20TN.pdf

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49 Responses to “Pastor D. Mohan has won and the Assemblies of God lost”

  1. Nehemiah September 14, 2012 at 6:32 pm #

    Dear Ezekiel Sir,
    You said the truth. The nobodies need to come together against these corrupt leaders not to make another group but to purify AG and other pentecostal churches like COG, IPC etc.

  2. George Varghese September 14, 2012 at 7:01 pm #

    Dear Pastor Ezekiel Joshua,

    Thanks for sharing this info. You are 100% correct. I am a member of AG for since I born again..I am proud to be part of AG.. Now after hearing this, I lost trust in the AG leadership.

    I hope pastors D Mohan and TJ Samuel will correct their mistakes.

    We need real men of God in the leadership, not power hungry leaders like DM and TJS

    George Varghese

  3. AG believers September 14, 2012 at 10:56 pm #

    We strongly support Pastor Ezekiel Joshua.. What Pas D Mohan did is NOT biblical or constitutional. All AG believers should join together to oppose Pas D Mohan’s constitutional changes.

  4. George Varghese September 14, 2012 at 11:03 pm #

    Dear Pastor Ezekiel Joshua,

    Thanks for sharing this info. You are 100% correct. I am a member of AG for since I born again..I am proud to be part of AG.. Now after hearing this, I lost trust in the AG leadership.

    I hope pastors D Mohan and TJ Samuel will correct their mistakes.

    We need real men of God in the leadership, not power hungry leaders like DM and TJS

    George Varghese

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

  5. John Varghese September 15, 2012 at 5:35 am #

    Dear Pastor Joshua,

    I am a third generation Pentecostal believer. Now I am totally confused. I could not understand whether our leaders have the fear of the Lord and they seriously believe in God. There is no conformity between their sermons and their activities. However, I am very happy to see that still some God fearing and righteous men of God are there. Let us pray to God to give wisdom to our leaders so that they could come out of their wrong intentions.

    JV, Delhi

  6. Roy Felix Joshua September 15, 2012 at 9:07 am #

    Assemblies of God indeed lost. I think it’s time to remove these leaders from their ‘throne’. It’s sad that leaders like D.Mohan and T.J.Samuel find their security in their ‘position’ rather than who they are in Christ. For the new generation they provide negative learning– how a leader shouldn’t be. A.W.Tozer said: “If you have a desire to lead you are disqualified to be a leader.”

  7. Roy Felix Joshua September 15, 2012 at 9:10 am #

    A word on Christian leaders comes from the article “Wanted: A Few Good Shepherds (Must Know How to Wash Feet)” by John MacArthur:

    “Under the plan God has ordained for the church, leadership is a position of humble, loving service. Church leadership is ministry, not management. Those whom God designates as leaders are called not to be governing monarchs, but humble slaves; not slick celebrities, but laboring servants. Those who would lead God’s people must above all exemplify sacrifice, devotion, submission, and lowliness. Jesus Himself gave us the pattern when He stooped to wash His disciples’ feet, a task that was customarily done by the lowest of slaves (John 13). If the Lord of the universe would do that, no church leader has a right to think of himself as a bigwig.”

  8. Binu Abraham September 15, 2012 at 9:34 am #

    Pastor, Please publish the reply from Pastor Mohan. Binu Abraham

  9. Roy Philip September 15, 2012 at 11:30 am #

    Dear Pastor, Really you have done a wonderful job. Roy Philip, New Delhi – 95

  10. chacko Australia September 15, 2012 at 12:29 pm #

    Jesus said, ” My house will be called a house of prayer, but you (such leaders) are making it a ‘den of robbers.’ “

  11. Jose Thomas September 15, 2012 at 2:12 pm #

    Pastor D Mohan and Pastor TJ Samuel should resign from their positions. Souded like they manupulated the general body and changed AG constitution for their own benefits. Let God fearing leaders come to the AG leadership. I don’t know much about Pastor D Mohan, but in my observation Pastor TJ Samuel is a ‘Proud’ political type of leader.. Christian leaders should be humble in the presense of God.. But Pastor TJ Samuel dont have such qualities.

  12. A. S. Mathew September 15, 2012 at 2:40 pm #

    I don’t belong to any Pentecostal denomination but have the Pentecostal experience, with many friends from the Pentecostal denominations in many parts of India and the U.S., and it breaks my heart to see this new spirit of fight to be the leaders, which has turned far worse than the dirty fight seen in the political world. It is high time to repent and beg to God to have the spirit of humility and compassion.

  13. Georgekutty, Kerala September 15, 2012 at 4:38 pm #

    Dear Pastor E Joshua,

    I really admire your courage to stand up against these selfish leaders.

    We need to stand up together to correct the corrupted leaders of AG. Thank you for the malayalam translation of your letter. Most of our AG pastors and believers were not aware of this constitutional changes. Your letter helped them understand the current situation.

    There are many third rate politicians in the AG leadership, who play cheap politics to retain their positions. Is there any way, can we call an emergency general body meeting to address these issues? Please reply.

    Thanks
    Georgekutty

  14. TK George September 16, 2012 at 2:05 am #

    Yes, I agree. “Pastor D. Mohan has won and the Assemblies of God lost.” What can we do to correct this issue? We need to create “Save AG” forum to protect AG from these corrupted leaders. We can’t let these corrupted leaders win again.

  15. ronitraju September 16, 2012 at 11:12 am #

    Churches Hijacked by Leaders! So Pathetic Condition!

    Roni

  16. calvaryagape September 16, 2012 at 4:40 pm #

    Brother Ezekiel Joshua is known for his courage and boldness to stand for truth and justice. He has proven that again. Thanks for the translation in malayalam and Tamil.

  17. AG member September 16, 2012 at 8:01 pm #

    I agree with Calvaryagape… I really congratualate Pastor Ezeliel Joshua for his courage and boldness to stand for the truth.

    Thousands of AG believers don’t have the online access to read this letter. So, we need to translate this letter to all regional languages (Malayalam, Tamil, Telugu etc) and send to local AG churches. We need to publish this letter in all major Indian Penticostal publications. Let everybody know about these corrupted AG leaders who played nasty politics to retain the power. Shame on such bad leaders of AG. Can someone call/write to these leaders and personally communicate to them in a Christian way about the mistakes they made? Pray for these leaders as well.

    Brothers, Please spread this letter to all of your AG friends and let us unite together to fight against the corruption in AG church.

  18. Ezekiel Joshua September 17, 2012 at 3:07 am #

    Dear brother George kutty ,
    Greetings !
    I am a 68 year old field missionary focusing just 9 districts of Central UP. I hold the lowest possible credential of the AG . This is of my own choice to be away from leadership politics. Generally I am not a conference goer .When I saw the proposal for the amendment of the constitution I began to learn that some of the leaders whom I thought as spiritual have also gone power crazy and that they are going to destroy themselves and the AG. In fact to some of them when they were lifted up to quick fame I even wrote ” I don’t know whether I should congratulate you or send a message of condolence ” Hope you have seen two letters written by brother Wilson William showing the lies the prophets of the new constitution told in the conference to convince the Conference . It is in the same website

    The translation in Malayalam is ready but it need to reach all the churches in the Malayalam district and Malabar district .The Tamil and Hindi are being done Once all the three versions reach in the hands of the people concerned,I will turn my full focus on central UP leaving this sort of works in the hands of young people who do not have any political ambitions

  19. Dr. Issac V. Mathew September 18, 2012 at 5:33 pm #

    Thanks Pastor Ezekiel Joshua for boldly commenting on the new developments in the AG fellowship of India-I know that many are scared of leaders who have the power to penalize. I recognize the fact that you are writing these words with a painful heart desiring for the good of this fellowship.
    I think that these leaders who promoted the amendments in the constitution of the AGI in the Chennai Conference on August 22-23, 2012 either do not know the original founding history of the Assemblies of God or are conveniently ignoring historical facts in order to protect their vested leadership interests. The AG originally was a fellowship of many independent assemblies of believers who were either expelled from the main line churches or who left the main line churches due to persecution for their Pentecostal experiences and convictions. At the beginning of the founding of the AG fellowship in the USA, it was mutually agreed in the constitution and by-laws that each fellowship is independent under the headship of Jesus Christ. However, they will cooperate on matters of faith and administration. This constitution affirmed that each assembly is a member of this fellowship, to be represented by one delegate from each church for the official General Body. In fact, the ordained ministers and each local assembly represented by a delegate had the voting power. It was the prerogative of this General Body to nominate the names of leaders to Executive Committee and then to be voted upon. Till this day, no amendments have been made in this regard either in the USA or any other part of the world as it was sounded in the AGI Conference on August 22-23 by some of the leaders. In the revised AGI constitution, this right of the local congregations to nominate leaders have been captured by the General Executive Committee of the AGI. The question is “whose right is it?” The right of the General Executive Committee who is already in power or “is it the right of the General Body? Why does the Executive Committee usurp the power of the General body, i.e., the ordained ministers and church delegates. Have they lost trust in the people of God? Should the leaders decide who must be the leaders or the people of God under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Now the local assemblies are regarded as good enough to pay money for the organization and not competent enough to exercise their rights assured in the constitution; let us call the people spectators. This is undermining the very nature of the Assemblies of God which is congregational in its structure and administration. There are some who want to make the AGI Episcopal, thus reversing to what we had forsaken for the affirmation in the “priesthood of believers.” I think this new trend is against the Scripture, against the original vision of the Assemblies of God.

    Dr. Issac V. Mathew

    • Wilson William September 30, 2012 at 2:45 pm #

      I am thankful for people like Bro.Ezekiel Joshua and Dr, Issac Mathew. Until being associated with Rev.D.Mohan , Rev.T.J.Samuel was much righteous than many others in the organization. Now we see great change in his attitude after he started to protect the interests of Rev.D.Mohan and Rev.Y.Jayaraj.. Rev.D.Mohan is very much known for intimidating prayer sessions. He shows as if he is a prayer warrior and uses prayer as a weapon against fellow brothers who question him than using it against the devil. He in fact prefers to call fellow brothers as devils and demons. He regularly chases them in prayer meetings.
      Almost the entire floor every pastor and every member have considered him to be super hero. But to our dismay he always had been a super Villain who has committed himself against the interests of the organization and every member. All he has in his mind is the great stadium he is building in chennai. Until it is completed and handed over to his sons he will not allow anything that comes in between whether it is organization or democracy. Rev.D.Mohan is the god of his proposed theocracy.
      The leadership and membership of Tamil District is infected with Mohanophobea. They have agreed to collapse the original structure of Assemblies of God. In Tamilnadu Assemblies of God is run as a company with their pastors being their bosses. The laity has nothing to say in its administration. They are now determined to change all of India and all of the world Assemblies of God if possible.
      If the member churches don’t wake up to this cause all will be gone beyond reach or retrieval.
      Rev. Wilson William, Coimbatore.

      • T. Nadarajan Joseph December 13, 2012 at 3:56 pm #

        Rev. Wilson William,

        It looks, you don’t believe in God. You mentioned “Rev. Mohan is a prayer warrior and uses prayer as a weapon against fellow brothers who question him than using it against the devil”. It is clear that you have no experience in prayer. You don’t know God never hear any prayer for wrong purpose. You are afraid of Rev. Mohan’s prayer. David never worried or scared of King Saul’s power or prayer. Saul wanted to kill David, but God killed Saul. “No weapon forged against you will prevail, and you will refute every tongue that accuses you. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord and this is their vindication from me’ declares the Lord” Isaiah 54:17

        “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye’, when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye“ – Matthew 7 :3–5. Math 5 :9: Blessed are the peace-makers: for they shall be called the children of God (not the peace-breakers).

        It seems that you have no other job, but having jealous on the servants of God who are working day and night tearfully to build-up the God’s ministry. Why are you concerned with the ‘great stadium’ he is building in Chennai? If you have courage, you can also build-up a similar one, if not a bigger one, on the opposite side of that stadium and hand-over to your family members just like Paster Ezekiel Joshua is doing in Delhi. He has purchased land and property (with the support received from abroad for the God’s ministry) in the name of his family members and threatening the faithful servants of God, who work under him to vacate the churches.

        It is true that Pastor D. Mohan has own. The enemies of God’s ministry are none other-than greedy servants like you. Please ‘put your sword back in its place’, come out from the spirit of Judas Iscariot, who was greedy even to sell the Saviour.

        Rev. Wilson, you are trying to break the ministry of God instead of building up just like Sanballat and Tobiah. Please go to the presence of God and pray to build-up a better ministry with a better vision because ‘you are the salt & light of this world’ instead of indulging in ‘dirty politics’ like some of the ‘hopeless ministers’. ‘To break is easier than to build’. Your action is very much disturbing the people like me, who have come to Christ from Non-Christian background.

        Sorry for the inconvenience,

        T. Nadarajan Joseph
        Believer in Christ

      • Rev. Wilson William December 21, 2012 at 2:18 pm #

        Dear Brother Nadarajan Joseph,
        I am not amazed at your comment in favour of Rev.D.Mohan. i do have great respect and regard for the way God has used him and established him in His work. Some people like you on the label of piety, building the kingdom of God blindly support and exalt human beings. Those human beings instead of exalting God work for the uplifting of the kingdom of God work for themselves and promote their kith and kin.
        Dear Brother I have written to Rev.D.Mohan personally and have waited patiently for his reply. When he was not willing to reply and not even bother to consider his fellow workers as human beings, then only we have presented these matters to the christian community elsewhere. I have mentioned in my letter to Rev.D.Mohan that i would wait for his reply and if he doesn’t I would definitelly write to everybody. If he was really concerned about the glory of God and building of God’s kingdom he would have certainly replied.
        We are tired of the tons of lies of these tall leaders.
        Dear brother I am a son of a pastor, our family has contributed a lot to the organization, our father after building more than 12 buildings for Assemblies of God has entered glory. He never bought any property for his own or his children. He was a green Card holder of the United States of America. In spite of that he didn’t expect anything from this organization. I don’t see such kind of sacrifice from the side of our leaders of these days. They are much concerned about promoting themselves and their kids. Whoever questions them are penalized, punished and cornered. Dear brother I also don’t own any property of my own.
        If you are really concerned you may talk to Rev.D.Mohan and ask him to reply to me to the letter i have written to him regarding the All India AG Conference which was held in Chennai. Don’t judge without knowing any truth. Whether you are a convert or born christian you must know justice. God bless. Thanking you for your concern.

      • AGI NEWS January 2, 2013 at 10:04 am #

        Dear brother Natrajan Joseph.
        I have seen your accusation that I have bought church properties by the money raised in the name of the ministry and asking the church to vacate now . Unfortunately this is a twist of the fact and a blatent lie If you want to know here are the facts .
        1) The properties had to be purchased in my name because after 20 years of Christian service in Nepal Afghanisthan and Delhi, in spite of my repeated request I could not get a membership in the AG .Please note that the property in Kanpur( after I could get a membership) which may fetch one crore ruppee today, is bought in the name of AG though every rupee including the travel allowance of the Superintendent for his travel for the registration was raised by me .And any moment I will be ready to quit if the AG asks me to do.
        2) How about Request for Vacating
        For Many years the churches we established were not accepted by the AG in Delhi I was also not accepted. So in seveal places property had to purchased and the pastors were asked to stay and use it . After 15 to 18 years of support given to these pastors and churches, these churches became self supporting and most of them have very good income . Our ministry is now expanded to UP Nepal and orrissa which needs money . We requested a percentage of the income of the churches which are housed in the property we bought ,for the ongoing ministry as I cannot go always to raise money as I am going to be 69 very soon . Some of them agreed. Two of them did not . I did not ask them to vacate the property though they did not agree to saperate a percentage of their income for the ministry Both of them are still staying and worshiping there . But in one of them we built an extra place for a training centre. This unit had never been a part of the church . This was a place for training Centre and other needs of the ministry in general.
        The Pastor in that church not only refused to show the accounts of the church, not only refused to separate a percentage of the income of their church for the ministry but,he unlawfully occupied the unit which is not given for the church and which is meant for the common use of the ministry also. He did it very secretly some time by the end of 2011. Then began to tell people that it was done by my permission which is a blatent lie Because this is an encroachment by goondaism I have asked him to vacate from the illeagally occupied unit. ( not the church and the place of stayy originalyy given for the Pastor )I have never asked the pastor or the church to vacate from the place of worship . He now justifys his goondaism and illeagel occupation by telling lies that I am asking for the church to vacate which is a lie and you in your over enthusiasm to defend the new Constitution of the AGI became part of this blatent lie and also to get sympathy for his encroachment. If you are some where near in Delhi please go there and find out the facts . If you want more information please email me ezjoshua@gmail.com

  20. Varghese September 19, 2012 at 3:40 pm #

    Thank you Rev. Dr. Issac V. Mathew for your comments. I hope more AG leaders will come together to protest against the recent constitutional changes made by dictatorial leaders like Rev D. Mohan, Rev TJ Samuel and others.

  21. George Varghese September 25, 2012 at 5:50 pm #

    Dear Pastor Ezekiel Joshua and Dr. Issac V. Mathew,

    Any updates on this issue? The Indian Pentecostal press media is very quite on this issue. Along with many other AG believers we are curious to know the updates. Please update us. Thank you.

  22. Ps.Wilson Patole September 27, 2012 at 5:38 am #

    Pastor Ezekiel Joshua,

    Thanks for an eye opener letter, I think we in Maharashtra had undergone a loth, humiliation from these so called spritual Leader, I think after all hard work and loth of pain and prayers, ” It is God who is bringing out all these leaders attitute and domination and power hunger before all the Indian.Pastor Ezekiel Joshua you had brought all the hidden agenda of these leader to light, for which we in Maharashtra are trying to bring nearly for 6 years now. We as AG community should join hands with prayers, and fight for the rights of every fellow AG personal.

    Thanks & regards

    Pastor Wilson Patole
    Pune

  23. Rev Shaji Verghese September 29, 2012 at 7:32 am #

    Dear,

    While the New constitution of the AGI says that all Churches of the AGI should have “Assemblies of God” at the end of its name ,why it is New Life Celebration Center only for the New church of Pastor D Mohan? Does it not bring a few more questions such as: is that big property in Chennai worth billions of Rupees really in the name of the Assemblies of God ? Or is it in some others name? Can pastor D Mohan come up clean about it ? Can the registration details be made public?

    Rev. Shaji Verghese
    Presbytor North Central Section AGNI

  24. Mathew Samuel September 30, 2012 at 12:12 am #

    Is the election for few SOMEBODIES ???? leaving the rest real AG cmunnity out ?????

  25. calvaryagape October 9, 2012 at 8:31 am #

    Rev.Wilson William from Tamilnadu has writen boldly to Tamil District superintendent Rev.Abraham Thomas and Rev.D.Mohan questioning their intentions and actions published in the following links after waiting for their replies.. They have not replied yet..

    http://calvaryagape.wordpress.com/2012/10/09/rev-mohan-misled-entire-agi/

    http://calvaryagape.wordpress.com/2012/10/09/what-the-tn-supt-of-ag-said-in-agi-conference-not-true/

  26. calvaryagape October 16, 2012 at 11:16 am #

    http://newindianexpress.com/cities/kochi/article1295730.ece

    SIT submission on ‘Assemblies of God’

    By Express News Service – KOCHI

    12th October 2012 11:15 AM

    The special investigation team on Thursday submitted before the Kerala High Court that the probe into the activities of the South India Assemblies of God, a Pentecostal Church division, should be intensified and the investigation has to be conducted in Pune, Mumbai, New Delhi and many places in south India,

    The prosecution case was that the organisation had obtained registration using forged documents. The case was registered at Aluva East police station based on a complaint filed by K K Jayesh Kumar of Aluva. However, the High Court had asked the state to constitute a special team under district police chief. DySP Aluva submitted that the investigation team conducted probe at Aluva, Kodungalloor, Kochi, Punalur, Madurai, Tirunelveli and Mumbai.

    “The team recorded the statement of 25 persons and seized various documents. South Indian Assemblies of God has more than 1,000 prayer halls in the state. They have churches and general presbyteries in Andhra Pradesh, Bangalore, Kanyakumari and Mumbai,” it said. According to investigating officer six more months is needed to complete the investigation in the case.

  27. ashishthevictor October 26, 2012 at 11:06 pm #

    I really am at a loss of words to see and hear things like this happening in our church organisations at the highest level. It took me some time to comprehend the matter. The picture one gets is that our leaders have stooped to the lowest level to wrest power and position. It saddens me that this has happened. And it has happened in a very discreet ,shrewd and deceptive manner of which Pastor Ezekiel had already warned us about. I think it is time to speak out against it vehemently.Politics and silent corruption prevailing like this in a church organisation is such an outrage. And to think of the ‘good’ non-protesting pastors who chose to simply be bystanders when all this took place. Can anything be done about this ? Do we have a proper solution to oppose this move by AG ? What should be done ? Or as things have now already been done we can stand back and say what Gamaliel said in Acts 5:38 and leave everything to God’s judgement. But that is what needs to be decided.

  28. k m mathew urukunnu November 9, 2012 at 7:02 am #

    THANKS PR JOSHUA,PLEASE WE UNITE AND PROTEST AGAINST THESE CURREPT IONS ,AG IS A DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTION ,PLEASE FOLLOW UP

  29. Varghese G.P. November 18, 2012 at 9:48 am #

    Any updates on this issue?

    Let’s Unite and stand up together, against the corruption In AG.

    • Roy Felix Joshua November 23, 2012 at 10:44 am #

      On wednesday T.J.Samuel in kerala preached that pastor Ezekiel Joshua should be kicked out of Assemblies of God. Ya!right. You should kick out everyone who questions you. Isnt it what we call dictatorship? Welcome to modern christian leadership….

  30. Andrew November 23, 2012 at 2:07 pm #

    May the Lord help us to stand together and build His kingdom. Any house that is divided within itself will fall. What we need today is not finding faults one with another, but rather joining hearts and hands together and fulfilling the purpose of God for our nation. Please join in prayer. Please also visit the blog http://aogindia.blogspot.in which gives the necessary explanation to all those who care to know the situation.

    Those commenting, please do realize first of all you are children of God and brothers and sisters one with another. Let your words be fitted with grace. Unbridled display of anger and personal feelings of frustrations does not help anyone.

    • Ezekiel Joshua December 15, 2012 at 3:02 pm #

      Dear Rev Andrew,
      Thank you very much for the call for prayer by the believers and leaders of the AGI

      How wonderful it would have been if this alert for prayer had come six months before the Historic out of turn Conference to make those very important amendment of the AGI constitution.
      How great it would have been if the draft was made available in the major languages instead of keeping it in English so that only less that 20% of the voters could know what was actually happening .
      How wonderful it would have been if the leaders who say that they are convinced of the guidance of the Holy spirit to wait till the next regular conference so that there could have been some more attendance .
      How great it would have been if all the items were discussed one by one and decided by secret ballot by two third majority

      By keeping 80% of the voters in darkness ,by not waiting for the regular conference , by not bothering for secret ballot and two third majority they have created suspicion in the mind of every body

      The conclusion by any thinking man is either of the following
      1) The men behind amendments and the administration are so holy so could never even think of even the fact that members of the Assemblies will think like this .
      and 2) There is some secret agenda

      Considering the history of some of the strong proponents of this amendments who proved their shrewd political maneuvering in toppling other leaders and getting terribly upset if not elected, the first conclusion is very much unlikely .The second is more likely. So let us pray that God save the AGI

      • Jerry March 15, 2013 at 10:21 pm #

        There are several king makers withing agi. They are hidden in theological colleges. One significant king maker is the senior pastor of ag church in kolkatta. Others hide in theological colleges. They know their say has no takers and ride on piggy tails of power holders. One such is a NT scholar from SABC (now CGLD – they are afraid to call themselves a Bible College, soon the very work Bible College will be eliminated)

  31. T. Nadarajan Joseph December 12, 2012 at 1:53 pm #

    Dear Pastor Ezekiel Joshua,

    “Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I
    could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity
    vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
    Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
    For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away – 1 Corinthians 13:1–10.

    Why don’t you try to love and forgive your fellow servants of the GREATEST GOD and make yourself as blameless and fit in the site of the Creator of Heaven and the earth?

    Thanks,
    T. Nadarajan Joseph
    Believer in Christ

    • kerenhappuch1986 December 24, 2012 at 10:21 am #

      Dear brother Natrajan Joseph
      Just a day or two before I saw your both postings . I have been putting these two together
      In one of them you have very strongly attacked brother Wilson William for speaking about Pastor Mohan and with out even knowing the facts, by hearing the lie some one has made, you accused Pastor Ezekiel of asking churches to vacate . You have not spared brother Wilson or Pastor Ezekiel in your attack. In the other posting you pretend to be a super spiritual giant and the advises to be forgiving and loving by quoting the scriptures.

      Why didn’t you quote the same scripture for yours selves before attacking Br Wilson William and accusing Pastor Ezekiel on the basis of a lie?

      Now have a very good look at these two postings of yours and judge yourselves.
      Are you a spiritual giant as you tried to project yourselves ?or a spiritual fraud? Or a flattery crony of Pastor D Mohan who may get some benefits after writing this comment

      As for Pastor Ezekiel , I know him for the past 25 yrs . Sir this man stays in a house which is registered in the AG’s name though he used his money to buy the property . The properties for Churches in Delhi all have been raised through Pastor EJ and not through the A.G. Yet no one was asked to vacate. I better help you with the facts . The training center run by his organization was taken over by a certain Pastor . And he has been advised to vacate and give up that floor which he had encroached recently . But this man is not content he wants the whole building for himself which according to me is very wrong and which is called stealing. More over without the consent of Pastor EJ he broke down one of the walls and made a lot of changes in the building

      Sir a wise man would collect information before spilling dust on a person’s character .

      Your brother in Christ

      • kerenhappuch1986 January 13, 2013 at 7:52 am #

        Dear brother Natrajan Joseph

        It is now abundantly clear that you are part of the Goondaism of your pastor who encroached and captured the first floor of the house given for worship while only the ground floor was given for the church and pastors stay This was done by your pastor with out information or permission of pastor Ezekiel .It is also now clear that it was not by your ignorance but purposely misleading the Christian community .The comments about the property you made is not because you did not know the facts but you knew the fact but chose to be a liar to help your pastor who is nothing less than Goonda . Your quoting Ist Cor 13 is just to hide your own and your pastors criminal acts of robbery

  32. ezjoshua December 13, 2012 at 9:50 am #

    Dear Rev Andrew,
    Thank you very much for the call for prayer by the believers and leaders of the AGI It appears that you are writing as a spokesman of the AGI

    How wonderful it would have been if this alert for prayer had come six months before the Historic out of turn Conference to make those very important amendment of the AGI constitution?.

    How great it would have been if the draft was made available in the major languages instead of keeping it in English so that only less that 20% of the voters could know what was actually happening?
    .
    How wonderful it would have been if the leaders who say that they are convinced of the guidance of the Holy spirit to wait till the next regular conference so that there could have been some more attendance and time to deliberate?.

    How great it would have been if all the items were discussed one by one and decided by secret ballot by two third majority ?

    By keeping 80% of the voters in darkness ,by not waiting for the regular conference , by not bothering for secret ballot and two third majority, they have created suspicion in the mind of every body .

    It is very hard to accept that these are mere innocent mistakes made by too holy spiritual giants .

    The conclusion by any thinking man is either of the following:

    1) The men behind the amendments and the administration are so holy, so could never even think of even the fact that members of the general body will think that their rights are stolen. What right do they have now except paying their dues and voting for those whom and the proposals the leaders have already decided? OR

    2) This was a calculated coup to make the 80 to 90% innocent members of the general body,mere spectators . It is said that dictators free themselves by enslaving others.

    Considering the history of some of the strong proponents of this amendments who proved their shrewd political maneuvering in toppling other leaders and getting terribly upset if themselves not elected, the first conclusion is very much unlikely .The second is more likely. So let us pray that God save the AGI

  33. ezjoshua December 13, 2012 at 8:41 pm #

    Reblogged this on ezjoshua and commented:
    Dear Rev Andrew,
    Thank you very much for the call for prayer by the believers and leaders of the AGI It appears that you are writing as a spokesman of the AGI

    How wonderful it would have been if this alert for prayer had come six months before the Historic out of turn Conference to make those very important amendment of the AGI constitution?.

    How great it would have been if the draft was made available in the major languages instead of keeping it in English so that only less that 20% of the voters could know what was actually happening?
    .
    How wonderful it would have been if the leaders who say that they are convinced of the guidance of the Holy spirit to wait till the next regular conference so that there could have been some more attendance and time to deliberate?.

    How great it would have been if all the items were discussed one by one and decided by secret ballot by two third majority ?

    By keeping 80% of the voters in darkness ,by not waiting for the regular conference , by not bothering for secret ballot and two third majority, they have created suspicion in the mind of every body .

    It is very hard to accept that these are mere innocent mistakes made by too holy spiritual giants .

    The conclusion by any thinking man is either of the following:

    1) The men behind the amendments and the administration are so holy, so could never even think of even the fact that members of the general body will think that their rights are stolen. What right do they have now except paying their dues and voting for those whom and the proposals the leaders have already decided? OR

    2) This was a calculated coup to make the 80 to 90% innocent members of the general body,mere spectators . It is said that dictators free themselves by enslaving others.

    Considering the history of some of the strong proponents of this amendments who proved their shrewd political maneuvering in toppling other leaders and getting terribly upset if themselves not elected, the first conclusion is very much unlikely .The second is more likely. So let us pray that God save the AGI

  34. Roy Felix Joshua December 24, 2012 at 6:40 pm #

    Nadarajan Joseph,
    The issue here is not about a person (D.Mohan) but about an organization. I don’t know if you would understand the intensity of emotions and passion involved here. You have said that you are from a non-christian background. That’s exactly why you wouldn’t understand how I feel or Pastor Ezekiel about the issue. Pastor Ezekiel’s father was a pastor of the Assemblies of God. Pastor Ezekiel was born and raised in the Assemblies of God. So the ties and the passion for the organization go back to 70 or more years. Hence, with all means he wants to oppose any move to thwart Assemblies of God’s present structure of administration or constitution. So please understand that this is not about ‘a person or few people’ it’s about the organization. Had it been someone else other than D. Mohan I am sure Pastor Ezekiel would have done the same to protect the organization.

    Now, about the issue in Delhi. I don’t know if your pastor has given the right information to you. Even though Pastor Ezekiel Joshua founded the Assemblies of God of Nepal back in 1970’s and founded the only Afghan Church in the world, Assemblies of God in India refused to accept him into the organization fearing that he would be a threat to their leadership positions. ( I have known Pastor Ezekiel for over 30 years and getting into ‘leadership positions’ had never been his aim or driving force.) Hence, he had to buy the properties in his family members’ name. I am sure you would be surprised to know that the Afghan church that meets in the Assemblies of God facility in New Delhi pays 3000/- as rent, even though the church is part of the Assemblies of God. Everything comes with a price. As Pastor Ezekiel explained no one has asked the pastor to vacate the church but only the place above the church building which was meant for the training center, which was not given to him and he clearly instructed that he doesn’t have any authority over that space. The pastor there was given the responsibility to take care of it. But now, he has encroached that space. This pastor has clearly proved that he is not trustworthy. What would you do or how would you feel if someone encroaches part of your house which was given to him to be taken care of? I would really encourage you to get your facts straight. with all the wisdom you seem to have you should advice your pastor to vacate the place above the church he has encroached. I am closely in touch with the believers of this particular church and they are fed up with this pastor. Pastor Ezekiel, who belongs to Kerala, doesn’t have a house of his own in his hometown. He poured out all of his life for the Lord and the Lord’s work. It would be becoming of a man for you to give him the due respect and use your words carefully. Thanks. God Bless!

  35. Issac V Mathew January 14, 2013 at 11:13 pm #

    SAVE THE ASSEMBLIES OF GOD IN INDIA

    Dr. Issac V. Mathew

    I am writing these comments taking in to consideration a number of communications that I have been reading from various persons expressing, responding and reacting to the letter initially published by Rev. Ezekiel Joshua regarding the constitutional amendments made in the Special AGI Conference held at Chennai on 22nd and 23rd of August 2012. Among these, there are a number of letters inviting the AG people for unity and peace. A letter posted by one Mr./Rev. Andrew (no identity is revealed) in the name of the AGI appears to be an endeavour to make peace, though it is certainly a biased call, supporting only what the leaders of the AGI attempted to promote. Other letters written by persons like T. Natarajan Joseph expresses only extreme anger and personal revenge upon his adversaries.

    The fact is that the great majority of us are for peace, stability and growth in the Assemblies of God in India and not for schism. But peace is never obtained by cheap means. It is costly and involves truth, justice, unselfishness and sacrifice.

    I think for the past decades, the Assemblies of God in India has been functioning smoothly under the able leadership of great men of God who honoured the Scripture and who had covenanted with each other to be guided by the Constitution and Bylaws laid down by the founding fathers of this fellowship. But, now these foundations of the Assemblies of God are being destabilized by a new generation of leaders who seem to have no respect for the vision of the founding fathers who functioned under the definite direction of the Holy Spirit. In this context, I think that all members of the Assemblies of God fellowship, who are for peace, unity and progress need to seriously study the original vision of the Assemblies of God fellowship and in the light of this, evaluate the procedures and decisions of the Special General Conference held in Chennai on August 22 and 23. This must be subjected to adequate discussion and revision which is likely to restore the peace and stability that prevailed before the Special Conference held in Chennai. In fact, the decisions of the Special General Conference, proposed and promoted by the General Executive Committee of the AGI have already set in motion a lot of confusions and divisions in the local assemblies, among ministers, District councils, Regional councils and National council of the AG fellowship. The peace and unity that prevailed in the AG is now seriously disturbed.

    1. The Vision of the Founding Fathers
    The Assemblies of God was established in the year 1914 in Hotspring, Arkansas, USA. This was occasioned by the Pentecostal Revival during the early part of the 20th century. People who had Pentecostal experience were either expelled from the main-line churches or compelled to quit due to ridicule and discrimination. Many of those who had the Pentecostal experience gathered together for prayer, fellowship and worship as independent assemblies. As these assemblies sensed the need to have a common fellowship, the elders (pastors) and churches in the USA gathered together and after much deliberations covenanted with each other to establish a fellowship, namely, the Assemblies of God and got registered with the government.

    Under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, the founders made the following constitutional declaration which clearly states the nature of the AG fellowship and the relationship to each other:
    “That we are a cooperative fellowship of Pentecostal, Spirit-baptized saints from local Pentecostal assemblies of like precious faith throughout the United States to be known as The General Council of the Assemblies of God whose purpose is neither to usurp authority over the various local assemblies, nor to deprive them of their scriptural and local rights and privileges; but to recognize and promote scriptural methods and order for worship, unity, fellowship, work, and business for God; and to disapprove unscriptural methods, doctrines, and conduct, endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace, ―till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ‖ (Ephesians 4:13).” (Constitution and By Laws of the General Council of the Assemblies of God in the United States of America and Selected Territories: Constitutional Declaration).

    2. Assemblies of God in India
    When AG was pioneered in India by missionaries, and churches established by local pastors, the South India Assemblies of God (SIAG) was registered as a society in 1951 adapting basically the same constitution and bylaws of the Assemblies of God in the USA for the Indian churches. Other regions which later developed also followed similar constitution and bylaws and got registered as societies. AG was registered as a national body in 1997 (the General Council of the Assemblies of God of India), adapting almost the same constitution and bylaws of the AG in the USA for the national context.

    The constitution and bylaws adopted by the above-said bodies were adequate to guide the activities of this fellowship, maintain peace and unity, honour the rights and privileges of members, and uphold the spiritual standards envisioned by the founders. However, the AGI Conference held at Chennai on 22nd and 23rd of August 2012 has turned upside down the very foundations of the Assemblies of God, and destabilized the democratic values, opening avenues for divisions, alienation of local assemblies from the leadership, depriving affiliated churches their rights assured in the constitution and bylaws. All these further open broader avenues for corrupt church politics and dictatorship of leadership.

    3. The Disputed Special General Conference of August 22, 23, Chennai
    The Special General Conference called by the General Executive Committee of the Assemblies of God at Chennai on August 22 and 23 is without legal validity and the amendments made on the constitution and bylaws of the AGI/Regional Conferences/District Councils seem to undermine the original vision on the very nature of this fellowship. There are a number of issues that we need to discuss about this conference, which I describe below:

    a) The Special General Conference with no Special Situation or Emergency
    The Constitution and Bylaws of the AGI state (Section IX, Sub-Section 2, Page 25) that Special General Body meetings may be called by the General Executive Committee to meet any special situation or emergency that may arise affecting the AGI. But there was apparently no any special situation or emergency that had risen in the Assemblies of God at national level or regional level or district level which could necessitate convening such a special general body or amending the foundations of the constitution. In fact, the regular Conference of the AGI was scheduled for the year 2013. This could have been the appropriate occasion to amend such crucial parts of the constitution and bylaws of the Assemblies of God that has far reaching negative consequences. But quite surprisingly, it is not yet clear what compelled the AGI General Executive Committee to call such a special general conference of the AGI spending huge amounts of money and inviting unwanted hardships for members of the General Council. Though the General Executive Committee is empowered to convene Special General Conference for urgent matters, this law does not give them the right to convene a conference for unjustifiable causes. Also it must be noted here that the Constitution and bylaws that were amended in the AGI conference have never been amended by the mother church organisation of the AG in the USA. Then why such amendments were initiated in a haste by the leaders of the AGI Ex. Committee in India. Thus the Special General body meeting, which has uprooted the very foundations of the Assemblies of God fellowship in India is unjustifiable.

    b) Legal Validity of the Special General Conference?
    This Conference was held violating a number of constitution and bylaws of the AGI and the regulations of the Societies Act. First, the majority of the members of AGI Council have not received the conference notice at all. (All the ministers holding the current fellowship certificate of ordination and all affiliated churches of the Assemblies of God represented by one delegate are the members of the Council). Here, the rights of the constituent members of the General Council are violated. It has been reported that there are around 7000 members (no statistics available) in the AGI General Council, which includes ordained pastors (around 2000?) and affiliated churches (5000?). But quite shockingly the attendance on the first day of the Conference (August 22) was only 863 (727 ordained pastors and 136 church delegates). This means that the attendance of members to make such crucial amendments to the constitution and bylaws was insufficient–only one out of seven members attended, i.e., 1/7 or only 12%. This in no way could be regarded as a justifiable strength to make amendments to the fundamental constitution of the AGI. Also the small number of church delegates, i.e., only 136 church delegates from all over India, i.e., around 3% of the total number of member churches, an insignificant number of churches were represented in this crucial conference convened only for the sake of constitution amendment. Again, shockingly most of these 136 delegates were probationer ministers, Christian worker certificate holders and licensed ministers and not necessarily believers who are legitimately expected to represent the local congregations. The AGI General Executive Committee has in fact, failed to make certain that adequate strength of membership was there for this important conference to make decisions which has far reaching consequences for this society.

    Special attention has to be given here on the non-compliance of the Tamil Nadu District Council that quite shockingly did not invite the affiliated churches to send their elected delegates for the AGI Conference. The notice sent to the affiliated churches by the Tamil Nadu District Council on 13-06-2012 does not invite the member churches of the AGI at all to send their delegates. Rather the notice states: Eligible candidates to participate in this conference are: 1. All ordained ministers. 2 The ministers of the recognised church as its delegate.” This is a deliberate violation of not only of the constitution but also of the rights of the affiliated churches. True, a pastor could represent a church if formally decided so by the General Body of the church, but that has to be decided only by the church and not by the direction of the Executive Council of any constituent District. No District Council has ever been constitutionally empowered to give such directions as to violate the rights of the affiliated member churches of the AGI. Surprisingly, this conference notice was served in a state where the Chief Functionary of the AGI (General Superintendent) resides and is a member of the Tamil Nadu District Council. This means, the churches are already being deprived of their rights and privileges with the knowledge and consent of the AGI superintendent. In the light of these violations of the constitution of the Assemblies of God by the AGI, how can anyone honestly claim to say that this conference is legally valid? I do not understand why some justify and defend the procedures of convening this conference.

    It has also been reported that some district councils in the North India Assemblies of God do not invite the affiliated churches for their conferences and have failed to invite them for AGI conference. Again, this is a violation of the rights of the churches to participate in the conferences.

    It must also be mentioned here that the AGI General Executive Committee has further failed in its duty to arrange to serve a copy of the proposed amendments in regional languages and distribute it to all constituent members. The few of copies of the amendment distributed were printed only in English. The majority of the pastors in the Assemblies of God are not well-versed in English language as to understand the content of such a technical document. This has ultimately deprived the member churches of the AGI the opportunity to discuss the amendments and represent their respective church’s opinions in the Conference. Is this not a violation of the rights of the members of the AGI council? How can we still call this conference as legally valid? Did we not violate and usurp authority of the local assemblies, and deprive them of their scriptural and local rights and privileges that have been guaranteed in the constitutional declaration.

    c) Will of the Chair or the Will of the Floor?
    The AGI follows universally accepted parliamentary orders for the conduct of business meetings. It is quite common to discuss the amendments and decide the matter based on the majority opinion as directed in the constitution. But contrary to this practice, following the presentation of each amendment and discussion, the Chairman exerted undue pressure on the floor to get the amendments approved favouring his opinion. On certain amendments, the members were falsely impressed upon by saying that such amendments have already been made in other countries. But most of these amendments made in constitution of the AGI have never been made even in the AG of the USA, the mother church organisation. It was finally clear in this conference that it was not the will of the floor that prevailed in the conference but the will of the Chairman, giving opportunities to suspect his intentions.

    Another anomaly in the conference was the role played by the Parliamentarians. Instead of maintaining impartiality and upholding the parliamentary order, some members of this official body moved to the floor and began to argue for the chairman’s view points on constitutional amendments. At one point, when some members pointed out to the parliamentarians that an important amendment was passed without the required 2/3 majority and that there must be a count of votes, they just brushed aside the request.

    I think that such things do not take place even in our state legislatures or parliament. This is a total disregard for democratic values. Note that the Assemblies of God is a congregational body and we uphold democratic traditions under the guidance of the Scripture.

    d) Qualification of the Members to the Executive Committee
    Regarding the qualifications of members to the AGI Executive Committee, and the Regional Councils, the proposed amendment states that a candidate must be an ordained minister, in active service of the AG for at least 15 years, should have served in AGI or Regional or District council committee for at least 5 years. Candidates for the District leadership should have served for 5 years in some capacity either as a presbyter or Ex. Committee member. In addition, to these qualifications, they should have working knowledge of English. These are unjust requirements for ordained ministers to be elected. Limiting the length of service for shorter period and requiring Christian maturity and competence are essential. But these requirements laid down in the constitution provides opportunities of leadership only to a few elites who always know how to get elected and those who can cleverly play church politics. A person who has never plotted to be elected as a presbyter or committee member cannot be regarded as eligible candidate for these responsibilities. Are we moving from bad church politics to the worst corrupt politics. This is a cheap breeding ground for corrupt church politics.

    The above amendments must also be evaluated in the light of the qualifications laid down by the Assemblies of God in the USA in their bylaws:
    “ ARTICLE II. ELECTION OF OFFICERS AND PRESBYTERS
    Section 1. Officer: The officers of The General Council of the Assemblies of God shall be elected at its regular meetings in the manner provided in these Bylaws. They shall be ordained ministers of The General Council of the Assemblies of God and shall be persons of mature experience and ability, whose life and ministry are above question, and such qualities alone shall determine their eligibility.

    The amendments made on the qualifications of candidates for Ex. Committees in India apparently manifest the lack of trust of the AGI General Executive Committee on the competence and eligibility of ordained ministers.

    e) Nomination and Election
    The right to nominate and elect members to the Executive Committees at national level, or regional level or district level from the beginning of the AG, whether it be district level, regional level, or national level, was that of the members of General Body. At the national level, the practice as stipulated in the original constitution was that the members of the General Council (the general body which consists of ordained ministers and delegates from churches) must nominate the candidates to the General Executive Committee during the Conference and then from this list, again they must be voted upon by the same general body. In fact, nomination and election was the right of the ordained ministers and delegates from affiliated churches. But now quite shockingly, the amendment that the AGI General Executive Committee proposed and approved by a minority vote during the AGI conference has deprived the ordained ministers and member churches their right to choose leaders. This is a treachery of the democratic practices that has been prevalent in the history of the Assemblies of God fellowship. Such practices could be found in the Roman Catholic Church. Are our leaders leading us back from the priesthood of all believers to the clergy centred hierarchy, Episcopalianism, from democratic practice where people exercise their rights to choose leaders to a system where ruling leaders deciding who must be their heirs. Is this not a mockery of democracy? Even in the Indian democracy, such violations of fundamental rights of citizens have not been heard of.

    The amendment made in the AGI conference states that there should be a nomination and election committee to nominate names to the different posts in the Ex. Committee and a selection committee to approve the names. These names nominated and selected by these committees will then be presented to the General Body to be voted upon. Why this amendment? Why do you take away the right of members? Have the leaders lost trust in the wisdom of ordained ministers and church delegates? Are we not moving away from the constitutional declaration which states that the General Council of the Assemblies of God India is neither to usurp authority over the various local assemblies nor to deprive them of their spiritual and local rights and privileges. The General Executive Committee of the AGI has pressured the Conference members to violate the rights of members of the General Council by usurping the power, privileges and rights guaranteed in the constitution and bylaws. Nomination and Selection by few leaders whether at the national level, or regional level or district level will lead the AG to more confusion, nepotism, and discrimination.

    Has the constitution and bylaws formulated by the founding fathers under the guidance of the Holy spirit become so obsolete that the modern leaders want to uproot the very fabric of the Assemblies of God? As stated by Mr./Rev. Andrew in his “call for prayer and unity of the Spirit” that the recommendations for such amendments were on the basis of closer alignment with biblical principles and in keeping with standard democratic principles is contrary to what has been affirmed in the constitution and bylaws of the Assemblies of God fellowship. By making these amendments in the constitution and bylaws of the Assemblies of God, the AGI has captured rights and privileges of not only the members of the AGI conference, but also encroached the rights of regional councils, district councils and local congregations. The regional councils and district councils are now expected to amend their respective constitutions according to the amendments made in the special general body of the AGI. The call for unity by leaders after creating confusions in the Assemblies of God by a total disregard for the privileges and rights of members of the AGI/Regional Councils/ District Councils by uprooting the constitutional values is unacceptable.

    This is ASSEMBLIES OF GOD, a group of churches who pledged together to function as a co-operative fellowship and not a church which is owned or regulated by the whims and fancies of a group of leaders. I trust and plead that the Assemblies of God fellowship be restored to its original vision of working together as a co-operative fellowship, promoting the Kingdom of God. A reconciliation based on mutuality is what is the need of the hour and not unhealthy deviation from the original vision.

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  37. Thejus March 16, 2013 at 8:04 am #

    People should demand and get more democracy within the organisation. Fight should go on, even if it means going legal. AG leadership seems to be afraid of democracy. There is no direct election in AG, which in itself is a protective mechanism developed by power hungry leaders to insulate chairs they hold from being occupied any others. AG leadership in itself is clan centered. Most of the AG churches have no democracy at any level. Churches are owned by individuals and passed on as ancestral property/ies to their sons or son in laws.

  38. calvaryagape July 16, 2013 at 4:48 pm #

    The 65th Annual Tamil District Conference was held at Trichy on the 9th, 10th and 11th of July 2013. As it was already decided the churches were deprived of their representation to the conference and the pastors are very much comfortable without their believers in the conference. On the 8th evening the presbytery gathered to take a decision on Rev. J.J. Y Arul the sitting Assistant Superintendent who had always been an irritation in the eyes of Rev. D. Mohan, Rev.Y. Jayaraj, Rev.P.S.Rajamoni and Rev. Abraham Thomas the sitting superintendent of the Tamil District. All the appointed men of the above said leaders gathered to make a mockery of the democracy and to sack Rev. Arul. They what they call “unanimously” decided to throw away Rev. Arul and his friends who stood with him in the recent years on the grounds of registering a para organization with the same title South Indian Assemblies of God from the same Charity Commissioner’s office at Mumbai.
    Now the question arises why did they register such an organization? Rev. Arul and his team knew that SIAG had lost its registration because of negligence.They wanted to find the truth of it and so first they went to Pune where SIAG claims to have an administrative office and found some amazing truth that SIAG never had any such registration.

    So they went to Mumbai where the related Registrar/ Charity Commissioner’s office to clarify. They gave a search in the Charity Commissioner’s office, then at the Co operative Societies Registrar’s office and then at the Registrar of Company’s office. All computerized and manual searches clarified that there was no such registration. So with an intention to help out the organization as a safety measure and a step to prove that there is no such registration they asked for a registration with the name SOUTH INDIA ASSEMBLIES OF GOD, But as per the Delhi High Court ruling usage of the word INDIA was not possible but they graciously agreed to use the word INDIAN instead of INDIA.
    They came down to Madurai where Rev. P.S Rajamoni was the then General Superintendent of the SIAG. Met with him and shown all the proofs but the great man of God made a mockery of all the proofs and said, ” I am not bothered because I don’t have anything to loose” Then they talked to the Tamil District leadership. The Tamil District leadership were counting the team as rebels because they questioned few irregularities in the organization. Hence counted everything rebellious. At this time only it was published in “Christhava Chintha:” Malayalam magazine.

    After this Rev. V.T. Abraham took a personal interest went to Mumbai, spent a lot of money, energy and time and pain to get the organization to a status of Re Construction. Thanks to the General Secretaries up to the time of Rev.T.J. Samuel who were sincere in sending their reports to the Charity Commissioner’s office thinking as if there was a registration. At the merit of the number of papers which they had on their hand they have made it possible to be published in the government gazette. This would have never happened if Rev. Arul and his team brought these truths to light.

    The charity commissioner has agreed for reconstruction of registration on the grounds that even if there is a minor opposition they would cancel the registration. But foolishly the presbytery of Tamil District along with the leadership are playing dirty and risky game with Rev. Arul and his team. I cannot highlight several dangers awaiting the organization if the same spirit continues.

    They treacherously made Rev. Arul to withdraw from election himself. Then as soon as Arul sat from talking Rev. D. Mohan got the microphone and said “under the leadership of Rev. Arul , his team made an attempt to destroy Assemblies of God in India by giving a letter to the Registrar of Societies Chennai. And that while he was praying God showed him that the Registrar is going to tear the application of Arul and his team and throw into the dustbin. God told him to go immediately to the Registrar’s office and get the copy of the letter. When he got the copy he found about 325 people have signed in the paper and most of them were ignorant of what they are signing for. So God saved the organization from great danger”

    It was a great joke to hear from the man of God that a Registrar would tear an application in which 325 people have signed and put it into a dustbin and that he would hand over a copy of the same without taking any action. Of course we know that his money has a lot of influence in all the government offices of Chennai. But he doesn’t know that the organization is running into danger. He is afraid that the illegal purchase of his Celebration Centre Property would come out if Arul and team would get elected again. Even if they are not elected everything is going to come out. All their 12 FCRA accounts on one fake Regn Number and all Income tax exemptions are going to be at stake. Any one who knows Rev. D. Mohan should advice him to stop this child’s game and help him grow..

  39. calvaryagape September 22, 2013 at 6:21 pm #

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